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Doug rambles on about 10-year mortgages, I tried to stop him but it’s hard when he gets on a rant. I also recommend sticking around till the end to hear a brilliant drop from Steve O’Brien that you won’t get to hear till next week on Lou Diamond’s 400th episode of the Thrive Loud podcast. 400 episodes, what a slacker…

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